Apr. 12th, 2005 @ 03:06 am
According to my clock, it's now midnight PST, so we are no longer accepting submissions for the style contest. We're going to take a day or two in the office to pull together the submissions and discuss the best way to poll the userbase. Voting will be open soon.
Thank you so much to everyone who's participated! The sheer diversity of the styles that have been submitted is almost overwhelming. There's some fantastic work here, and I know I personally am going to have a whole lot of trouble picking the ones I like best. I can't wait to see how the polling goes.
|Date:||April 12th, 2005 07:18 am (UTC)|| |
Too bad I didn't find about this contest until yesterday, I thought i'd have a pretty good chance of being in the top 5. I actually started a design thinking I would somehow get finished in time, I was pretty close.. until I looked into S2, implementing the design with S2 was going to be the real time killer, considering i've never even looked into it before. I'm fluent with other languages, but I just didn't have time to figure it all out before the deadline. Ah well! =) I'll look forward to the next contest 5 years from now, LOL.
I'm ready to vote!
|Date:||April 12th, 2005 08:24 am (UTC)|| |
I'm sure we'll have more! I hope so, anyway. And maybe longer. This one's been pretty good, but it could have used with more time.
And I like your journal style, but it's too thin for me. I like things that use all available screen real estate. (But I guess that's all personal preference!)
It was rather short. And of course, the contest was announced right as my classes started back up. Didn't have the time for this one, but I'll be ready next time. *hopes there's a next time"
I sadly didn't know about it until today. :(
|Date:||April 12th, 2005 11:27 am (UTC)|| |
This has been wonderful - it has showed up so much talent!!
I liked xixs
' speech bubble theme so much, I've taken it and adapted it for my own journal. I was also most impressed with comradexavier
's clever idea for grouping friends entries by userid, to make it look as if they'd written columns in a newspaper. Finally, alastia
has some incredible colour functions and texture ideas - I'm sure those ideas could be incorporated into many styles ...!
Thanks for running such an inspiring competition!!! :D
|Date:||April 13th, 2005 07:07 am (UTC)|| |
While no-one asked me, I'm going to post my opinion on the polling process anyway. I think the best polling process would be to assign each user a given number of points and allow the user to distribute points up to that maximum over the contest entries as they wish. This means that they can either blow all of their points on a layout they really like, or spread them out over a bunch of layouts. They can also use only some of their voting power if they don't really like any of the options that much. The entries with the most points at the end of the voting period are the winners.
This or some variation on it is the way to go in my opinion.
|Date:||April 13th, 2005 07:28 am (UTC)|| |
I like this idea. Before I saw this comment, I was hoping for a "rank your top five choices" method, but that would be more complicated than your suggestion and wouldn't have the flexibility of letting people focus all their votes on a single style.
Since there will be five winners, five sounds like a good number of points to allot to each voter.
I think ten points would be better because you can then weight your choices more - if you want to vote for five and only have five points you can't give one more points than another.
|Date:||April 13th, 2005 07:51 am (UTC)|| |
My thought process, which I just noticed wasn't clear due to my mention of the "ranking five" thing, was that with this method would eliminate the need to literally rank the votes. Everybody gets to pick up to five that they think should be winners, and if they want to give more weight to one then they should have to forfeit the right to pick five.
Giving out ten points would lead to a lot of people picking ten styles (nearly half of the submissions!) due to not wanting to play favorites, not really caring what style wins, not wanting to "waste" votes by not using them, etc. It seems like that could skew the results pretty severely.
|Date:||April 13th, 2005 04:31 pm (UTC)|| |
If users are only allowed to allocate whole points (which I think is sensible) then the number of points just changes the smallest contribution assignable to a given layout. Having ten points will allow people to give half as much contribution to a single layout than they would with five. I think it's good to force users to actually make a choice rather than just spreading their vote, so a smaller number of points is good. This will increase the impact of a given vote and thus hopefully make people think more about what they are picking.
Five seems like a good number to me, because it's big enough to allow people flexibility in their choices while not covering too large a fraction of the options.
|Date:||April 13th, 2005 10:59 pm (UTC)|| |
Doesn't this essentially just reduce to a simple variant on a cardinal voting system? I'd think some variant on STV would probably be better.
|Date:||April 14th, 2005 07:00 am (UTC)|| |
I think the problem with STV is that it confuses people. I've seen small elections based on STV and people are often confused by the results. However, I suppose the “interface” to the vote is a simple rank so people shouldn't be too confused by that, and I guess most people will just accept the result without thinking about how it came about too much.
When it comes to it, though, we're just picking the winners to a competition. This isn't a national election. I don't think it really matters too much how the vote is carried out. The most important thing is that users understand how it works and are encouraged by the system to vote in a thoughtful manner.
|Date:||April 13th, 2005 07:26 pm (UTC)|| |
Also, it might be an idea (and perhaps make for a fairer vote) if style previews were shown in a random order, so no style is always at the top of the page.
Um, I had been told to re-post my submission (to provide more info) pretty close to when you made this post. Unfortunately, I was in bed and did not receive the e-mail until the next day. When I got the message, and after I got home from school where I can't access LJ, I re-posted.
So, ummmm what happens now? I don't see my submission here.
I e-mail Rah explaining this, but I haven't gotten a reply yet. I'm just afraid that someone won't get to this until it's too late.
My stuff was done and submitted the first time before the deadline...
Please excuse my atrocious grammar and spelling; I'm in a rush.
OK, I just tried voting... How do I know if my vote has been registered? On clicking the "Cast your votes" button, all that happens is that the styles get re-listed in a different order, with the some ones ticked. If I click the "cast your votes" button again, the list just gets re-ordered again. Have I now submitted two sets of votes, one, or none?
There needs to be a positive "thankyou for your vote", ideally with "we have registered your votes for... (list of styles)".
|Date:||April 15th, 2005 08:45 am (UTC)|| |
After submitting the page, the page will have, right above the screenshots, "Your Current Vote:" with the list of what you've voted for. Same URL.
Ah! OK, yep, goddit. Thanks.
Maybe it could with highlighting somehow, though. It's a tiny change, visually. The re-ordering is what grabs your (OK, my - maybe I'm just weird?*) attention, and the rest of the page looks unchanged.*(I mean, I know I *am* weird, but I don't think I'm *just* weird...)
|Date:||April 15th, 2005 03:19 pm (UTC)|| |
Is it possible to preview styles which your don't own on your own journal? FAQ 177
says: "For security reasons previewing your style is limited. When logged in, you can preview your style when applied to any journal. However, other users can only preview your style when it is applied to your journal."
However, I could have sworn that this used to be possible -- that you could preview a style with "is_public=1" on your own journal in the usual "?s2id=whatever" fashion. Am I crazy? Is this new?
Yep, it used to be possible. I'm assuming it was disabled for the security reasons mentioned, though I'm not certain.